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Lukewarm Christians

‘So because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of My mouth. Revelation 3:16

Is there a such thing as a “Lukwarm Christian”? If so what is a “Lukewarm Christian”? Often I heard theologians try to downplay this scripture, saying it was a cultural reference to a drink, however this is a warning Jesus is giving to the Church, if he is truly your Master, then stop compromising to worship people

For example, we look at the United Methodist Church. They currently have an open Lesbian as a Bishop who is calling Jesus a bigot, however we have millions of “Christians” who continue to loyally serve the Methodist Church. Where is the outrage? Why are all the Methodist compromising their doctrine to appease the Church? They are “Lukewarm Christians”, either they don’t have the Biblical knowledge to identify the heresies or they just simply don’t care

Some might say, but wouldn’t Jesus rather have everyone saved even if they were “Lukewarm”? Well are you truly saved if you are “Lukewarm”? How can you truly be a bondservant for Christ and allow heresy in your Church?

But Jesus accepts everyone, regardless right? Well didn’t Jesus say “Many are called but few are chosen” (Matthew 22:14)? , didn’t he say , “Narrow is the path and few will find it” (Matthew 7:14)?  Jesus said he would “Spit out” the “Lukewarm Christians” isn’t that enough to take this more serious?

“And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.’ Matthew 7:23

The current heresy going on in the UMC, as well as many other big corporate denominations, is lawlessness (sin). If you continue to stand with that Church, you are guilty of it also, as Jesus said “ Come out of her” (Revelation 18:4) meaning get out of the corrupted Church and worship God in spirit and truth

Heavenly Father, we pray for the Church, we pray that the Holy Spirit convicts all those guilty of being Lukewarm and lead that back to Spirit and Truth in Jesus Name Amen!

God The Father?

“Pray, then, in this way: ‘Our Father who is in heaven, Hallowed be Your name. Matthew 6:9

The United Methodist Church continues to shock everyone, at least true Christians should be shocked. At the  Minnesota Conference they  removed God The Father from their Apostles Creed. Their official statement was that the term “Father” wasn’t inclusive enough for the 21st century UMC. Even though Jesus Christ, who is the cornerstone of the Church, always addressed God as The Father and even taught us to pray to God as The Father.

Here is their official statements regarding this issue

 

Leaders need to establish the ground rules: Everybody’s God language is appropriate. People’s God language signifies a relationship that you can’t interfere with. You can raise questions and offer additional perspectives, but you can’t dictate. You can’t prohibit anybody from using any language about God. Whether they want to call God “Jehovah” or “Big Dog,” you can’t judge the validity of how that name connects them with God. People just need to get used to that.

So according to the UMC we now have the authority to override Jesus Christ and edit the Apostles Creed which has been in existence for over 2,000 years. Seriously they are ok with people calling God “Big Dog”? What happened to the integrity and respectability of the Methodist Church?

 

Pastors and other leaders should give attention to teaching people what the church’s traditional images mean and what they don’t mean. For instance, the “fatherhood” of God is about relationship, not biology. Our people won’t know how to reflect theologically about these things — instead of just reacting emotionally — unless we give them the tools.

There is nothing emotional about the Father/Son hierchy of the Bible. For example we were given examples through Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob about the significance of roles a Father/Son play in society and in theology. Without this understanding , you wouldn’t understand the title of Son of God

 

Pastors and other worship leaders should expose people to a variety of images of God, both familiar and new, both comforting and provocative. People should regularly hear God referred to in public worship with images that are male, female, and gender neutral. In a worship service the choir may sing an anthem with thickly sexist, male-dominated language, while the prayers are full of feminine imagery. People can sing their own words, with their personal substitutions, if they wish. People should be encouraged to take responsibility for their own faith.

As the Bible tells us we are not to conform to the ways of this world but become transformed. This statement is telling us the opposite, lets conform to society today to make “Church” more acceptable. This is total heresy!

https://www.christianpost.com/news/umc-minnesota-conference-removes-father-from-apostles-creed-for-worship-service-224721/

 

http://pulpitandpen.org/2018/06/11/united-methodists-remove-father-from-apostles-creed-to-be-more-gender-inclusive-to-god/

Another Jesus? #UMC

But I am afraid that, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, your minds will be led astray from the simplicity and purity of devotion to Christ. For if one comes and preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted, you bear this beautifully. 2 Corinthians 11:3-4

Is the Methodist Church preaching another Jesus? Methodist Bishop,  Dr. Karen Oliveto, who is an open lesbian married to a woman , who also a deacon in her church, has said this about Jesus

“If Jesus can change, if he can give up his bigotries and prejudices, if he can realize that he had made his life too small, and if, in this realization, he grew closer to others and closer to God, than so can we.”

The Bishop Karen, who oversees over 400 Methodist churches,  directly called Jesus a bigot and prejudice. This would imply that Jesus was sinful and not God in the flesh. How could Jesus be the Messiah or Lamb of God if he was a bigot? Basically, the UMC is introducing a new heresy that is stating Jesus is just another prophet like many cults and false religions

“Too many folks want to box Jesus in, carve him in stone, create an idol out of him. But this story cracks the pedestal we’ve put him on. The wonderful counselor, mighty God, everlasting one, prince of peace, was as human as you and me. Like you and me, he didn’t have his life figured out. He was still growing, maturing, putting the pieces together about who he was and what he was supposed to do. We might think of him as the Rock of Ages, but he was more like a hunk of clay, forming and reforming himself in relation to God.

In another interview Bishop Karen went on to say we should not create an idol out of Jesus. Basically saying we shouldn’t worship Christ, are you serious? Does she understand the Methodist Church is supposed to be Christian? This is a direct denial of Jesus deity by a Bishop of the Methodist Church.

 

I emailed a superintendent of the UMC to see if her doctrine was accepted by the church. I wont give his name but he fully supported her new doctrine and even went on to give me a sermon to support her. Its clear the UMC is introducing a new heretical doctrine to remove the deity of Christ and support their homosexual agenda.

 

https://www.afa.net/the-stand/culture/2017/10/methodist-bishop-thinks-jesus-was-a-bigot/

 

https://juicyecumenism.com/2017/09/15/lesbian-bishop-oliveto-warns-not-create-idol-jesus-says-bigotries-prejudices-updated/