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Did Jehovah Create Jesus?

Did Jehovah Create Jesus?

According to the Watchtower , https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/wp20130301/when-jesus-created-why-son/

at some point Jehovah created Jesus. Is this really true? Are there scriptures that back up this claim? As we read Genesis there is no mention of Jehovah creating Jesus, in fact the Bible tells us they made creation together. (Genesis 1:26)

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. Genesis 1:26 (KJV)

26  Then God said: “Let us  make man in our image, according to our likeness, and let them have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and the domestic animals and all the earth and every creeping animal that is moving on the earth.”a  Genesis 1:26-28 (NWT)

According to the KJV and the New World Translation they both agree that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were all present during the creation of everything. So when does the Bible say Jehovah created Jesus? The JWs reference a scripture taught by the Apostle Paul Colossians 1:15-16

 

Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: Colossians 1:15-16 (KJV)

15  He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; 16  because by means of him all other things were created in the heavens and on the earth, the things visible and the things invisible,whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All other things have been created through him and for him Colossians 1:15-16  (NWT)

My first thought is if Jesus was created why wasn’t this mentioned anywhere in the Bible except for possibly here? If Jesus  our Lord was created , don’t you think this would be something God would want us to know! This teaching by Paul was directed specifically to a group of Christians in Colossae

Second as we compare the translations of scriptures , we see it says in KJV “For by Him (Jesus) All Things were created” However in NWT its says “For by means of Him all Other Things were created”, this is a big difference in context

The main question is probably what does the context of the scripture mean “Firstborn of all creation”? If we continue reading the entire chapter we see it says “He (Jesus) is before All Things “ (Col 1:17) “He (Jesus) Is The Beginning” (Eternal)(Col 1:18), “Firstborn from the dead” (Resurrection) (Col 1:18)  “Gods fullness dwelled in Him (Jesus) (Deity) (1:19)

So in this full chapter we see it says Jesus is Eternal, Resurrected, and is Deity. Firstborn of every creature would make sense to mean because of his atonement and resurrection, we can have eternal life, become Born Again because of Christ

Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. Revelation 1:7-8 (KJV)

 Look! He is coming with the clouds,o and every eye will see him, and those who pierced him; and all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in grief because of him.p Yes, Amen. I am the Alʹpha and the O·meʹga,”*q says Jehovah* God, “the One who is and who was and who is coming, the Almighty.” Revelation 1:7-8 (NWT)

This is very interesting, if we compare the passages here, obviously its talking about Jesus returning in the clouds , who was pierced (crucified), and Jesus says he is the beginning and the end (Eternal)

However the NWT says that Jehovah is making these statements?  Was Jehovah the one who was crucified? No then why does the NWT translate (Kyrios) (Lord) as Jehovah? This is a blatantly obvious mistake. Its clear here Jesus is declaring that He is Eternal

I think the JWs case that Jesus was created is very weak and obviously very flawed when you compare the context and the original Greek

Is Jesus God or A God?

Was Jesus God or A God?

We are going to take a look at 2 English Bible translation , the King James and the New World Translation used by Jehovah Witnesses.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1 (KJV)

 In the beginning was the Word,a and the Word was with God,b and the Word was a god John 1:1 (NWT)

We have 2 choices based on these texts, either Jesus is God or Jesus is a God. Now if Jesus is another God apart from the Father, what kind of God is he? How many Gods are there? Can we worship more than one God?

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Isaiah 9:6 (KJV)

 

 For a child has been born to us,dA son has been given to us;And the rulership* will rest on his shoulder.eHis name will be called Wonderful Counselor,f Mighty God,g Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. Isaiah 9:6  (NWT)

I think we can agree that the prophecy of Isaiah 9:6 is about Jesus. So here we see in both translations Jesus is given the title of “Mighty God”, again how many Gods are there? Can we worship multiple Gods? Do we worship Jesus?

Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them. And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted. Matthew 28:16-17 (KJV)

However, the 11 disciples went to Galʹi·leel to the mountain where Jesus had arranged for them to meet.m 17  When they saw him, they did obeisance, but some doubted Matthew 28:16-17 (NWT)

Now here the NWT translators tried to be clever and changed the translation of the original Greek word (proskuneo) to obeisance. If you look up proskuneo throughout the New Testament you’ll find this word always means “worship”. The word obeisance itself means to bow, kneel. So instead of using the English word worship , they try to downplay it with obeisance

And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever. And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever. Revelation 5:13-14 (KJV)

And I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and underneath the earthv and on the sea, and all the things in them, saying: “To the One sitting on the thronew and to the Lambx be the blessing and the honory and the glory and the might forever and ever.”z 14  The four living creatures were saying: “Amen!” and the elders fell down and worshipped. Revelation 5:13-14 (NWT)

Now the interesting thing here in Revelation 5, the NWT translates “proskuneo” as worship. Why are they not consistent in Matthew?  Secondly even from their translation its pretty clear, The Lamb (Jesus) is worshipped

The bottom line is as Christians we worship Jesus. Even Jehovah Witnesses have to admit they worship Jesus. So if we worship Jesus and hes not God then we are all idolaters. However because John and Isaiah made it clear Jesus is God, we are worshipping the one true God incarnate.

 

 

Wrestling With God

And Jacob went on his way, and the angels of God met him. Genesis 32:1

This is a very interesting Chapter and it starts out with a bang. Jacob and his family have now just split from his father in Law Laban and they are headed back to Canaan , his homeland. The only problem is he would be running into his brother Esau on his journey home. If we remember Jacob stole Esau’s birthright from their father, and last Jacob knew Esau declared to kill him

So notice God sent a group of Angels (Messengers of Elohim) to comfort and strengthen Jacob. Remember after Jesus struggle in the wilderness with Satan was over, Angels were sent to comfort him also.  Angels are all around us and God will send them to you in times of trouble! (Psalm 91:11)

Jacob though about fleeing as he found out Esau was on his way to meet Jacob. However Jacob remembered Gods promise that he will make him prosper (Genesis 32:9) However Jacob sent away his family to hide and was alone with God (Genesis 32:21)

And Jacob was left alone; and there wrestled a man with him until the breaking of the day Genesis 32:24

Jacob describes a man wrestled with him until daybreak. Now this is important to understand, because later Jacob states “I have seen God face to face and yet my life was spared” (Genesis 32:30) How can Jacob have seen God yet wrestled with a man?  Jacob was wrestling with Jesus Christ himself

And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed. Genesis 32:28

Jesus changed Jacobs name to Israel because he struggled with God. This is the beginning of the birth of the nation of Israel. Are you wrestling with God today? Don’t give up, keep seeking, keep knocking, and he will bless you Amen!

Abraham Meets Jesus

And the LORD appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day; And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground, Genesis 18:1-2

This is a very interesting text, here we see Abraham says the Lord “Yahweh” appears to him. The original Hebrew in the text has YHWH translated as LORD in English. So we know that Abraham is saying God appeared to him

The next part is astonishing as God appeared to Abraham in the form of 3 men. People who say the Triunity of God was made up by the Romans or Greek mythology has never studied this text. Here we see the Triunity of God in the Torah.

This is symbolic of the Father, Son , and Holy Spirit. So we can make assumption that one of these men were Jesus Christ. Abraham has now met Jesus face to face and the text says Abraham bowed to the ground to them

And he said, I will certainly return unto thee according to the time of life; and, lo, Sarah thy wife shall have a son. And Sarah heard it in the tent door, which was behind him. Genesis 18:10

Why did God appear to Abraham in human form? Well first remember the seed of the Messiah was going to come from Israel by Abraham. So Abraham had divine revelation from God more than anyone at this point.

Second Jesus had a special prophetic message to deliver to Abraham. That by next year the promised Son of Isaac would be here. This is the blessing that Abraham and Sarah have been waiting for years!

The Godhead

For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Colossians 2:9

Who said the Bible doesn’t mention the Trinity? Here we see the Apostle Paul explaining how the Godhead (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) dwelled in Jesus. One thing you have to remember about God is that he is Triune in nature. So whatever he is doing, hes doing it in unison with the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit

Now some would say “Well my Bible doesn’t say “Godhead” its translated as “Deity”. Well the word Deity means basically God, Divine nature, creator ect. When you say that something is a Deity , your giving that divine status. So if you rather say Jesus is the fullness of Deity, your calling him God in the flesh!

When Mary gave birth in the manger, the Triune God came in human form. But notice God didn’t come down in a castle or a mansion. He came down in a barn. Why? Because Gods not impressed with worldly riches. We may be impressed, but Gods not. As Jesus said “Store up your treasures in heaven and not of this world” (Matthew 6:19-20)

And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power: Colossians 2:10

Why did Jesus come down to Earth? To deliver us from our sin, we are completed in Him. Jesus loves you enough to leave his throne in Heaven and take the position of a baby. To eventually become crucified for your sins. Then he rose from the dead after 3 days defeating the curse of sin forever!

Rejoice for the coming of The Lord! Rejoice for the coming of The Christ! Amen!

Father Son and Holy Spirit

Now when all the people were baptized, Jesus was also baptized, and while He was praying, heaven was opened, and the Holy Spirit descended upon Him in bodily form like a dove, and a voice came out of heaven, “You are My beloved Son, in You I am well-pleased.” Luke 3:21-22

One of the glorious moments in the gospels is when the Father, Son , and Holy Spirit all came together as one to begin the redemption of humanity. Here we see when Jesus was getting baptized, the Son coming out of the water, The Holy Spirit coming down and anointing him, and the Father giving his blessing upon this union

So you might ask , why did Jesus need to be baptized? Well first you have to consider Jesus needed to become human to die for our sins. Even though Jesus was fully God he was also fully man, a hard concept for us to grasp. However God cant die, so Jesus needed to be made human to be the atonement for our sins

Since Jesus is human, hes also vulnerable to temptations. But he is filled and anointed with the Holy Spirit, so the power of God is living inside of him.

“Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, Matthew 28:19

Also Jesus would never ask us to do something he wouldn’t do. Jesus wouldn’t command us to get baptized if he wasn’t baptized either. Jesus was setting an example for us all, he never asked us to do anything that he hasn’t already done!

Notice Jesus says Baptize in the name of The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit! Our God is a Triune God Amen!

Show Us God

Jesus said to him, “Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how can you say, ‘Show us the Father ‘? John 14:9

Philip says to Jesus “Show us the Father” meaning “Show us God”! Jesus is amazed , Philip has been with him for over 3 years and he still doesn’t get it. Even after all the miracles Jesus performed, and all the references he made to past revelations of God such as , Great I AM, Living Water, Bread of Life, these guys still are not getting it!

Even today , many Christians are still not getting it. Even after all the Revelation we have about Jesus, after all the prophecies Jesus fulfilled, after all the power Jesus has displayed, many just don’t understand his deity.

If you want to see God, Look at Jesus! If you want to know the will of God, Look at Jesus!

 

He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. Colossians 1:15

Paul also describes Jesus as the image of the Invisible God! But what does Paul mean by “Firstborn of all Creation”? Is Paul saying Jesus was created by God? No, Paul is referring to the Resurrection of Christ! Because Jesus has defeated death and was resurrected on the 3rd day, he is the first fruits, the first born of all Creation!

Because of Christ we can live eternally with God, because of Christ we can now see God and have a relationship with Him Amen!

What Did Jesus and Apostles Teach about Trinity?

What Jesus taught

 

Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, Matthew 28:19

“All things that the Father has are Mine; therefore I said that He takes of Mine and will disclose it to you. John 16:15

What Peter taught

according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, by the sanctifying work of the Spirit, to obey Jesus Christ and be sprinkled with His blood: May grace and peace be yours in the fullest measure. 1 Peter 1:2

What Paul taught

The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you all. 2 Corinthians 13:14

Now I urge you, brethren, by our Lord Jesus Christ and by the love of the Spirit, to strive together with me in your prayers to God for me, Romans 15:30

There is one body and one Spirit, just as also you were called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all. Ephesians 4:4-6

 

What Jude taught

But you, beloved, building yourselves up on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit, keep yourselves in the love of God, waiting anxiously for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to eternal life. Jude 1:20-21

What John taught

the Spirit and the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement 1 John 5:8

John to the seven churches that are in Asia: Grace to you and peace, from Him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven Spirits who are before His throne, and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To Him who loves us and released us from our sins by His blood—Revelation 1:4-5

Together As One

Jesus answered, “I did tell you, but you do not believe. The works I do in my Father’s name testify about me, but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. John 10:25-26

Jesus was once again being attacked for being The Messiah. Many refused to believe or accept Jesus because they would rather accept their religion and rituals.

This is still true today, many still deny Jesus as Christ even though he rose from the grave and conquered death. But us that do listen know he is The Good Shepherd and we are his sheep.

My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. John 10:27-28

Jesus cares for us just like a Shepherd cares for their flock. When we obey his commands and follow him we are giving the gift of eternal life.

But there are wolves out there looking to devour us, we must be careful and who are following and listening to. As we are instructed by God to “Test the Spirits”

My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand.  I and the Father are one.” John 10:29-30

Again here Jesus identifies the Trinity as He and God are one. If God is for us, who can than be against us? Our God is an awesome God, he is the creator of The Heavens and The Earth, just in your Father, follow Jesus and you will have eternal life.

Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?” John 10:31-32

But even after all the miracles and great works Jesus had performed in the name of God, they still chose to kill him. The only one who can give us eternal life, had his life taking away by for your sins.

Which are you today? Are you one of Jesus sheep listening to his voice or are you a wolf looking to devour? Some might say I’m neither, this isn’t true. If you only follow yourself this is self-worship, which is the core beliefs of Satan. There is only way to eternal life, there is only one way to The Father and its in Jesus Name Amen

Trinity

Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.” Matthew 28:18-20

 

There are many false teachings that the Trinity is false doctrine. But as you read the above passages, Jesus commanded us to baptize in the name of the Father, Son , and Holy Spirit, he didn’t just ask us to. As it says before that Jesus has been giving all authority, if you want to reject the Trinity I suggest you take it up with Jesus.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. John 1:1-3

Some of the most powerful scriptures are in John 1, it clearly reveals the Trinity, as God, Jesus, and The Holy Spirit are one.  This scripture is so revealing that there are religions and versions of Bibles that altered this scripture to disprove the Trinity. Jesus is the truth and those who seek the truth shall find it.

 

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.1 John 5:7-8

 

As we learned from John 1, Jesus is the Word, another confirmation that God, Jesus, and The Holy Spirit are one. As Jesus said in John 10:30 “I and my Father are One” these Words come from the authority of Jesus Christ, who told us in Matthew 28 “All authority in Heaven and Earth has been giving to him”

Who are you going to believe, our Lord Jesus Christ or Man? There are many false doctrines about how the Trinity was made up by Man, the Word was here before Man and will be here after Man, I trust in Jesus.

The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen. 2 Corinthians 13:14

Paul confirms the Trinity also with his sermons in Corinthians, if you don’t believe Paul, then you don’t believe half of the New Testament.  The other half of the New Testament Jesus confirmed the Trinity.

Don’t be misled by Man, read the Word of God, follow your heart, seek the truth and you shall find it in Jesus Name Amen