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Who Did Jesus tell us to worship?

Who did Jesus tell us to worship?

Talking to a Jehovah Witness the other day, and he quoted Matthew 4:10 as proof Jesus is not God. So lets compare the scripture

Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. Matthew 4:10  (KJV)

Then Jesus said to him: “Go away, Satan! For it is written: ‘It is Jehovah your God you must worship,j and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.’ Matthew 4:10 (NWT)

When we compare this scripture between the New Word Translation vs other English translations, theres a big difference. Notice in the NWT it seems pretty clear to worship Jehovah only, but is that what the original Greek text says?

The original Greek word is Kyrion which in English always translates to Lord. Jehovah would not be a correct translation here. His response was “Well what scripture is Jesus quoting”? Ok fair enough, as we see Jesus is actually quoting Deuteronomy 6:13 lets compare this scripture

Thou shalt fear the LORD thy God, and serve him, and shalt swear by his name.  Deuteronomy 6:13 (KJV)

13  Jehovah your God you should fear,m and him you should serve,n and by his name you should swear. Deuteronomy 6:13 (NWT)

So when we look at the original Hebrew , it is Yahweh here so it can be correctly translated as Jehovah. However if we agree that Jesus is quoting this scripture in Matthew 4:10, think about what Jesus is revealing.

Jesus didn’t use the word Yahweh when rebuking Satan, he used Lord. I think we can all agree Jesus is the Lord. So Jesus essentially is mentioning himself where in Deuteronomy Yahweh is. Therefor I actually think by the Jehovah Witnesses exploiting this scripture, there actually proving that Jesus declared himself God

The New Word Translation incorrectly translates Kyrion as Jehovah in Matthew. You don’t have to be a Greek scholar to know that’s an incorrect translation.

Did Jehovah Create Jesus?

Did Jehovah Create Jesus?

According to the Watchtower , https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/wp20130301/when-jesus-created-why-son/

at some point Jehovah created Jesus. Is this really true? Are there scriptures that back up this claim? As we read Genesis there is no mention of Jehovah creating Jesus, in fact the Bible tells us they made creation together. (Genesis 1:26)

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. Genesis 1:26 (KJV)

26  Then God said: “Let us  make man in our image, according to our likeness, and let them have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and the domestic animals and all the earth and every creeping animal that is moving on the earth.”a  Genesis 1:26-28 (NWT)

According to the KJV and the New World Translation they both agree that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were all present during the creation of everything. So when does the Bible say Jehovah created Jesus? The JWs reference a scripture taught by the Apostle Paul Colossians 1:15-16

 

Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: Colossians 1:15-16 (KJV)

15  He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; 16  because by means of him all other things were created in the heavens and on the earth, the things visible and the things invisible,whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All other things have been created through him and for him Colossians 1:15-16  (NWT)

My first thought is if Jesus was created why wasn’t this mentioned anywhere in the Bible except for possibly here? If Jesus  our Lord was created , don’t you think this would be something God would want us to know! This teaching by Paul was directed specifically to a group of Christians in Colossae

Second as we compare the translations of scriptures , we see it says in KJV “For by Him (Jesus) All Things were created” However in NWT its says “For by means of Him all Other Things were created”, this is a big difference in context

The main question is probably what does the context of the scripture mean “Firstborn of all creation”? If we continue reading the entire chapter we see it says “He (Jesus) is before All Things “ (Col 1:17) “He (Jesus) Is The Beginning” (Eternal)(Col 1:18), “Firstborn from the dead” (Resurrection) (Col 1:18)  “Gods fullness dwelled in Him (Jesus) (Deity) (1:19)

So in this full chapter we see it says Jesus is Eternal, Resurrected, and is Deity. Firstborn of every creature would make sense to mean because of his atonement and resurrection, we can have eternal life, become Born Again because of Christ

Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. Revelation 1:7-8 (KJV)

 Look! He is coming with the clouds,o and every eye will see him, and those who pierced him; and all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in grief because of him.p Yes, Amen. I am the Alʹpha and the O·meʹga,”*q says Jehovah* God, “the One who is and who was and who is coming, the Almighty.” Revelation 1:7-8 (NWT)

This is very interesting, if we compare the passages here, obviously its talking about Jesus returning in the clouds , who was pierced (crucified), and Jesus says he is the beginning and the end (Eternal)

However the NWT says that Jehovah is making these statements?  Was Jehovah the one who was crucified? No then why does the NWT translate (Kyrios) (Lord) as Jehovah? This is a blatantly obvious mistake. Its clear here Jesus is declaring that He is Eternal

I think the JWs case that Jesus was created is very weak and obviously very flawed when you compare the context and the original Greek

Did Jesus Call Us Gods?

Did Jesus call us Gods?

One response Jehovah Witnesses will have to their translation of John 1:1 , is that Jesus has called us all Gods. So lets take a look at the context of this scripture in KJV and NWT

 

The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? John 10:33-36  (KJV)

 The Jews answered him: “We are stoning you, not for a fine work, but for blasphemy;d for you, although being a man, make yourself a god.” 34  Jesus answered them: “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said: “You are gods”’?e 35  If he called ‘gods’f those against* whom the word of God came—and yet the scripture cannot be nullified— 36  do you say to me* whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, ‘You blaspheme,’ because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’ John 10:33-36  (NWT)

Here when we compare the two translations, we see a little difference. KJV has Jesus declaring he is God, while NWT says Jesus is only a God. This is a big difference as we see Jesus response stating the Pharisees are “gods”. Therefor the NWT would be making Jesus equal with the Pharisees, while KJV would be stating Jesus is deity over the Pharisees

Jesus is quoting Psalm 82, lets compare these to get the context of the scripture

I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes. Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations. Psalms 82:6-8 (KJV)

  “I have said, ‘You are gods,*jAll of you are sons of the Most High.   But you will die just as men do;kAnd like any other prince you will fall!’”l   Rise up, O God, and judge the earth,mFor all the nations belong to you.  Psalms 82:6-8 (NWT)

Basically the two translations are in agreement with each other here, but what is the context of the scripture? The scripture is referencing “Divine Authority”on Earth. Such as the religious leaders (Pharisees) that Jesus was addressing in John 10

But there is a clear distinction between Jesus as God and the Pharisees as gods. If we lower Christ to the same level as the religious leaders, that we would be just saying he is a mortal man. Then how could Jesus be the atonement for the sin of the world? Jesus has to be deity to be the Son of God as he stated

By this definition , I don’t believe we would all be “Gods” either, unless we have a divine position of authority given to us by God Almighty. Bottom line is if you reject the Deity of Jesus you also reject the atonement for your sins!

 

 

Is Jesus God or A God?

Is Jesus God or A God?

We are going to take a look at 2 English Bible translation , the King James and the New World Translation used by Jehovah Witnesses.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1 (KJV)

 In the beginning was the Word,a and the Word was with God,b and the Word was a god John 1:1 (NWT)

We have 2 choices based on these texts, either Jesus is God or Jesus is a God. Now if Jesus is another God apart from the Father, what kind of God is he? How many Gods are there? Can we worship more than one God?

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Isaiah 9:6 (KJV)

 

 For a child has been born to us,dA son has been given to us;And the rulership* will rest on his shoulder.eHis name will be called Wonderful Counselor,f Mighty God,g Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. Isaiah 9:6  (NWT)

I think we can agree that the prophecy of Isaiah 9:6 is about Jesus. So here we see in both translations Jesus is given the title of “Mighty God”, again how many Gods are there? Can we worship multiple Gods? Do we worship Jesus?

Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them. And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted. Matthew 28:16-17 (KJV)

However, the 11 disciples went to Galʹi·leel to the mountain where Jesus had arranged for them to meet.m 17  When they saw him, they did obeisance, but some doubted Matthew 28:16-17 (NWT)

Now here the NWT translators tried to be clever and changed the translation of the original Greek word (proskuneo) to obeisance. If you look up proskuneo throughout the New Testament you’ll find this word always means “worship”. The word obeisance itself means to bow, kneel. So instead of using the English word worship , they try to downplay it with obeisance

And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever. And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever. Revelation 5:13-14 (KJV)

And I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and underneath the earthv and on the sea, and all the things in them, saying: “To the One sitting on the thronew and to the Lambx be the blessing and the honory and the glory and the might forever and ever.”z 14  The four living creatures were saying: “Amen!” and the elders fell down and worshipped. Revelation 5:13-14 (NWT)

Now the interesting thing here in Revelation 5, the NWT translates “proskuneo” as worship. Why are they not consistent in Matthew?  Secondly even from their translation its pretty clear, The Lamb (Jesus) is worshipped

The bottom line is as Christians we worship Jesus. Even Jehovah Witnesses have to admit they worship Jesus. So if we worship Jesus and hes not God then we are all idolaters. However because John and Isaiah made it clear Jesus is God, we are worshipping the one true God incarnate.